The Mike and Nirav Show

The Mike and Nirav Show

A little explanation (which I am normally loath to give). This is the unedited transcript of a conversation between my friend Mike and I. We’re both going to NYU in the fall. We’re both film geeks (although this is the only context in which Mike is a geek…otherwise, he’s the paragon of cool). Carlyle is the name of the dorm I’ll be staying in. Mike is ‘jcuervo23’ and I am ‘Icefactory37’.

jcuervo23: carlye is far away from the school

IceFactory37: indeed.

IceFactory37: only like 10 blocks though.

IceFactory37: it’ll be good for the waistline.

jcuervo23: my building’s like across the street

jcuervo23: all my classes are at 721 Broadway

IceFactory37: yow.

IceFactory37: in the Tisch building?

IceFactory37: I’ve got 2 classes next door, at 719 Broadway

jcuervo23: i’m not sure what it is

jcuervo23: in fact, i believe the building is actually called “721

IceFactory37: yeah….it’s the Tisch building.

IceFactory37: you can always tell because of the cloud of cigarette
smoke that’s in front

jcuervo23: he he

jcuervo23: everyone in the village smokes

IceFactory37: indeed.

IceFactory37: gawd…it’s crazy.

jcuervo23: my roommate is from PA

IceFactory37: oh…all 3 of my suitemates are filmstudents

jcuervo23: i guess I should give him a call sometime

IceFactory37: have you been in contact with him?

jcuervo23: instruct him on what I want him to bring

IceFactory37: maybe…I wish they’d include email addresses.

jcuervo23: seriously

IceFactory37: lol…show him who’s boss early on.

IceFactory37: did you check out Begotten?

jcuervo23: what are you doing tomorrow night?

jcuervo23: i have

IceFactory37: don’t know yet.

jcuervo23: pretty much the day after you gave it to me

IceFactory37: what did you think?

jcuervo23: I have been meaning to get it back to you

jcuervo23: pretty wierd I’d say

IceFactory37: it’s really interesting…that cat’s from New York

jcuervo23: CUNY, right?

jcuervo23: not NYU

IceFactory37: I think so

jcuervo23: i am interested in seeing shadow of the vampire though

IceFactory37: I’ve heard conflicting things about it, but I’d like to see it too.

IceFactory37: saw The Score yesterday.

jcuervo23: but anyways, tomorrow night, i was thinking we’d watch
some films

jcuervo23: Katie bought me Battleship Potemkin on DVD

IceFactory37: sounds like a grand idea.

IceFactory37: yeah…she told me (-:

IceFactory37: we could watch that, along with ‘Touch of Evil’

jcuervo23: that;s cool

jcuervo23: have you seen 400 blows?

IceFactory37: yes, but the print that the video is from was pretty

IceFactory37: it’s fantastic.

jcuervo23: yeah, I have that one too

IceFactory37: oh…I’d love to watch a good print of it.

jcuervo23: but it has some sort of commentary on it, I thought we
may watch that

IceFactory37: that’d be cool.

IceFactory37: have you seen ‘Jules et Jim’?

IceFactory37: I’ve been meaning to see that one, along with ‘Stolen

jcuervo23: no

jcuervo23: but

jcuervo23: the blockbuster on 520 has a new “World Cinema” collection of DVD

jcuervo23: i saw Wild Chil

jcuervo23: Child

jcuervo23: Bagdad Cafe

IceFactory37: the library has ‘Jules et Jim’

IceFactory37: nice…don’t know Bagdad Cafe.

jcuervo23: Satellie?

jcuervo23: it’s considered Avant-garde

jcuervo23: i also saw Bannanas by Woody Allen

jcuervo23: I love Woody Allen

IceFactory37: probably Cocoa Beach….but you can have reference
bring it to whatever library you’re at.

jcuervo23: most people don’t like it

IceFactory37: I need to see more Woody Allen stuff, esp. Manhatten

jcuervo23: but i think he’s funny

jcuervo23: have that too

IceFactory37: really?

IceFactory37: I need to check that one out.

IceFactory37: brb

jcuervo23: i think Manhattan so far is my favorite

IceFactory37: oh….the Vero theater is showing a film by Jafar
Panahi called ‘The Circle’

IceFactory37: Panahi did a film called ‘The White Balloon

IceFactory37: ‘, which I dearly love

jcuervo23: hmm

IceFactory37: he’s part of a new wave of really interesting Iranian

jcuervo23: what else did he do

jcuervo23: that name sounds familiar

IceFactory37: I think that’s pretty much it…have I sent you the list of interesting movies at the library?

jcuervo23: the mirror

IceFactory37: that’s Tarkovsky

IceFactory37: that’s a fucking *amazing* movie….god, I’ve never
seen anything like it.

IceFactory37: how much Altman have you seen?

jcuervo23: Dr. T and the Women

IceFactory37: what did you think>

jcuervo23: ok

jcuervo23: oh and the Player

jcuervo23: which I thought was really good

IceFactory37: I haven’t seen anything….I really want to
see ‘Nashville’ and ‘McCabe + Mrs. Miller’

IceFactory37: a teacher at Satellite really recommended The Player

jcuervo23: film books talk about it all the time

jcuervo23: oh, get this

IceFactory37: aha…you

IceFactory37: ‘re right…Panahi did do a movie called ‘The Mirror’

jcuervo23: I was looking through my childhood film collection and I
found transformer the movie

IceFactory37: nice….

IceFactory37: I remember that that movie made me cry…can’t
remember why.

jcuervo23: Orsen Welles, Lenard Nimoy and Judd Nelson were in it

IceFactory37: whoa.

jcuervo23: i never realized that

jcuervo23: have you ever seen Big Trouble in Little China

IceFactory37: nope.

jcuervo23: that was my all time favorite childhood movie

jcuervo23: i watched it everyday from the ages of 3 to 7

IceFactory37: really? yeah…I missed out on a lot of kids films

IceFactory37: gawd.

jcuervo23: i just found out it was directed by John Carpenter

IceFactory37: that’s a lot of watchining…

jcuervo23: it’s not really a kids film

jcuervo23: more like fantasy action

jcuervo23: it’s very comic book

jcuervo23: the lines are cheesy

jcuervo23: but I think it’s great

IceFactory37: I haven’t seen any of the John Hughes
stuff….Sixteen Candles, all of that buisness.

jcuervo23: neither have I

IceFactory37: lol….I thought I was the only one.

jcuervo23: I just spent 7 hours watching Seven Samurai

IceFactory37: did you watch it twice through?

IceFactory37: man…I need to see that one too…along with

jcuervo23: well, it’s a 3.5 hour long movie and then there is a

jcuervo23: very interesting commentary

IceFactory37: who does the commentary?

jcuervo23: some japanese film aficianado and distributor

jcuervo23: but it told me a lot about japanese culture

IceFactory37: oh….if you get a chance, check out this Japanese
film called ‘Branded to Kill’…it’s one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.

jcuervo23: and how meticulous Akira Kurosawa was

jcuervo23: that’s a great name

jcuervo23: i want to name my kid Akira Kurosawa

IceFactory37: I want to name my kid Alexander the Great.

IceFactory37: they’ll have a dog named Bucephalus.

jcuervo23: or Dante: Destroyer of Cities

jcuervo23: the epitaph is included with the legal name

IceFactory37: yeah….that or Faust.

IceFactory37: it has to be, there’s no other way.

jcuervo23: I am William Blake

IceFactory37: ‘I am William Blake, have you read my poetry?’

jcuervo23: names are so great

IceFactory37: yes!!! That’s my favorite part of that movie!

jcuervo23: i think it defines the character

IceFactory37: very much so…I think that moment is very
complicated…I don’t know if I’ve got to the bottom is it.

IceFactory37: I think that line is related to the one where Nobody tells Blake, that if he uses the gun too much, he’ll lose his ability to write poetry

jcuervo23: i told you about the indian in Ghost Dog, right?

IceFactory37: the moment where Blake says ‘I am William Blake, have
you read my poetry?’ is a realization that gun violence *is* the American form of poetry.

jcuervo23: definately

IceFactory37: i think that entire movie is a complex critique of
American culture set in the model of the western…I love Jarmusch twists this model, of the Western we have.

IceFactory37: Gary Farmer…yeah….’Stupid Fucking white man’ is
another great line….it comes up again in Ghost Dog, right?

jcuervo23: he always does great pieces on culture like that

jcuervo23: yep

IceFactory37: I love it. the Satellite blockbuster has a DVD of
Stranger Than Paradise.

jcuervo23: so does 520

IceFactory37: have you watched it?

jcuervo23: it was the first DVD i rented as an employee

jcuervo23: it’s funny

jcuervo23: right after Seven Samurai was released in Japan

IceFactory37: it’s great…all of the Beach stuff was filmmed in
Cocoa Beach I think.

jcuervo23: we come out with the Magnificent Seven

IceFactory37: no…I think it’s Melb. Beach.

jcuervo23: Melbourne Beach

IceFactory37: it’s funny how cultures feed off each other.

jcuervo23: in the seven Samurai, a farming village hires seven
samurai to protect the village

IceFactory37: I want to see all of Seizuki Seijin’s (Branded to
Kill) movies

jcuervo23: in Magnificent seven, a mexican peasant town hires seven
gun fighters

IceFactory37: the Indian film industry does a LOT of that…Raj
Kapoor (I think it was him) created a very Chaplin-esque charcter in Shree 420

jcuervo23: if I ever get a chance to do a film thesis, I would like
to compare and contrast Seven Samurai with the Magnificent Seven

IceFactory37: that’d be a great idea.

jcuervo23: in fact, I should have done that for my extended essay

IceFactory37: have you seen the new version of Psycho?

jcuervo23: but I doubt anyone would understand

IceFactory37: yeah…what did you end up doing yr extended essay on?

jcuervo23: nah, I heard it was lousy so I naver bothered

jcuervo23: The McClellan Commitee and the motivation of RFK to
Persue Jimmy Hoffa

IceFactory37: nice.

IceFactory37: where’d you get the idea?

jcuervo23: divine intervention

IceFactory37: awesome.

IceFactory37: hey…would you mind if I post this conversation on
Ink19 as my column?

jcuervo23: actually, I was going to do how the change of america’s
society (blue collar to white collar) caused the demise of
organized crime

jcuervo23: sure

jcuervo23: do you think you should organize it a bit

IceFactory37: that’s a pretty broad subject…

IceFactory37: naw…it’s interesting as it is.

jcuervo23: well

IceFactory37: I might…I owe Matthew a column, and it’s been hard
to find time to finish this Brando thing.

IceFactory37: oh….did you see The Score?

jcuervo23: i trashed my original topic since I had theories but not
much evidence

jcuervo23: with brando and DeNiro?

IceFactory37: yep.

jcuervo23: no

jcuervo23: and I am upset that I have not

jcuervo23: i completely forgot about it until you reminded me it

IceFactory37: it’s pretty interesting…I enjoyed it….Edward
Norton is allright in it.

jcuervo23: I saw it on a poster and said “I need to see that movie”

IceFactory37: see…I would have figured you’d have seen it by
now…Brando’s great in it.

jcuervo23: I like it when Mentors and disicples act together

IceFactory37: a lot of people knock Brando, but I still think he’s

jcuervo23: and I love Edward Norton

jcuervo23: he pretty much started the idea of method acting

IceFactory37: he does a good job here.

IceFactory37: he really popularized it.

IceFactory37: have you seen ‘Streetcar Named Desire’?

jcuervo23: of course

jcuervo23: from that movie, since Brando didn’t wear an undershirt
in it, undershirt sales dropped 40%

jcuervo23: and pretty much went out of style

IceFactory37: it’s so great….you’ve got both acting styles in
it…the very classical, theatrical acting of….fuclk…forgot her
named…and then the hyper-naturalism of Brando.

IceFactory37: that’s too bizarre…I head that when Jackie Chan
married, 30 women in China kille themselves

jcuervo23: I think I liked the film version of streetcar better
than the play

IceFactory37: I

jcuervo23: now that is unusual

IceFactory37: ‘ve never seen it on stage.

IceFactory37: that’s only what I’ve heard…it’s probably grossly

jcuervo23: no body yells “Stella” like Marlon Brando

IceFactory37: lol…very true.

IceFactory37: what a voice!

IceFactory37: allright man….I’ve gotta split…I’m hitting the
gym with some friends soon…give me a call tomorrow, and we’ll see
what’s going on.

jcuervo23: you know what movie I am suprised never really hit it
that big, Keeping the Faith

jcuervo23: sounds good

jcuervo23: don’t hurt yourself

IceFactory37: I

IceFactory37: ‘ll try not to.

IceFactory37: Take care!

jcuervo23: bye bye

Leave a Comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked with *

Recently on Ink 19...

  • Tom Tom Club
    Tom Tom Club

    The Good The Bad and the Funky (Nacional). Review by Julius C. Lacking.

  • Barnes & Barnes
    Barnes & Barnes

    Pancake Dream (Demented Punk Records). Review by Carl F. Gauze.

  • Jeremiah Lockwood
    Jeremiah Lockwood

    A Great Miracle: Jeremiah Lockwood’s Guitar Soli Chanukah Album (Reboot). Review by Bob Pomeroy.

  • Metallica: The $24.95 Book
    Metallica: The $24.95 Book

    From an underground band that pioneered the thrash metal sound, to arguably the biggest rock act in the new millennium, Metallica has had a long and tumultuous history. Ben Apatoff scours a myriad of sources to catalog this history in his new book.

  • Araceli Lemos
    Araceli Lemos

    Shortly after AFI Fest 2021 wrapped, Generoso spoke at length with director, Araceli Lemos about her award-winning and potent feature debut, Holy Emy. Lemos’s film uses elements of body horror in her story about the exoticization of two Filipina sisters living in Greece and how that exploitation creates a distance between them.

  • Southern Accents 55
    Southern Accents 55

    A woofin’ good time with cuts from Hank Williams, Muddy Waters, Delta Moon and more from KMRD 96.9, Madrid, New Mexico!

  • Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
    Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

    Absurdism with a healthy dose of air conditioning.

  • Mixtape 172 :: My Old Bassist
    Mixtape 172 :: My Old Bassist

    Like pre-teens throwing every liquid into the kitchen blender and daring each other to drink the results, Woody and Jeremy fuse all manner of sounds legitimate and profane into some murky concoction that tastes surprisingly good.

  • Demons/Demons 2
    Demons/Demons 2

    Synapse Films reissues Lamberto Bava’s epic ’80s gore-filled movies Demons and Demons 2 in beautiful new editions.

  • Sylvie Courvoisier and Mary Halvorson
    Sylvie Courvoisier and Mary Halvorson

    Searching for the Disappearing Hour (Pyroclastic Records). Review by Bob Pomeroy.

From the Archives